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	<title>Comments on: Abortion and Common Sense</title>
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		<title>By: CJV</title>
		<link>http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/05/06/abortion-and-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-6845</link>
		<dc:creator>CJV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 May 2010 01:45:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only somewhat agree with you; therefore, it must also a sin to send our 18 year olds to foreign countries to either be killed before they reach the tender age of 21 or to kill innocent victims of shattered governments, in the name of democracy right?

I don&#039;t know your personal stand on this particular issue, you may or may not agree with me. I guess I found an opening for a pet peeve of mine. I feel frustrated with so many double standards.

I think a sound arguement for anything is at least consistant. This country, and the world for that matter, is full of hypocracy. We can&#039;t change the rules of the game when things aren&#039;t in our favor. Consistency is missing.

My problem with the statement you made is that those who usually make it are not consistant in their beliefs. For instance, the people who feel necessary to criticize women who have abortions are the same people who complain about welfare families, single parent homes, medicare to the poor, understaffed schools, the horrors of abused neglected children, broken families, children exposed to drugs and alcohol, and so on...I don&#039;t think that most women who have abortions are just careless &amp; bad people. Though I don&#039;t condone abortions, I also don&#039;t think that I have a right to judge a womans motive, that&#039;s between the woman, God and her doctor frankly. 

One final note on the statement, these same people are often the ones complaining of intusive over reaching big government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only somewhat agree with you; therefore, it must also a sin to send our 18 year olds to foreign countries to either be killed before they reach the tender age of 21 or to kill innocent victims of shattered governments, in the name of democracy right?</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know your personal stand on this particular issue, you may or may not agree with me. I guess I found an opening for a pet peeve of mine. I feel frustrated with so many double standards.</p>
<p>I think a sound arguement for anything is at least consistant. This country, and the world for that matter, is full of hypocracy. We can&#8217;t change the rules of the game when things aren&#8217;t in our favor. Consistency is missing.</p>
<p>My problem with the statement you made is that those who usually make it are not consistant in their beliefs. For instance, the people who feel necessary to criticize women who have abortions are the same people who complain about welfare families, single parent homes, medicare to the poor, understaffed schools, the horrors of abused neglected children, broken families, children exposed to drugs and alcohol, and so on&#8230;I don&#8217;t think that most women who have abortions are just careless &amp; bad people. Though I don&#8217;t condone abortions, I also don&#8217;t think that I have a right to judge a womans motive, that&#8217;s between the woman, God and her doctor frankly. </p>
<p>One final note on the statement, these same people are often the ones complaining of intusive over reaching big government.</p>
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		<title>By: Lola Allen</title>
		<link>http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/05/06/abortion-and-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-6840</link>
		<dc:creator>Lola Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 May 2010 19:33:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am always against abortion because it is a sin to kill an innocent child.-&#039;:</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am always against abortion because it is a sin to kill an innocent child.-&#8217;:</p>
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		<title>By: George Lebron</title>
		<link>http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/05/06/abortion-and-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-6806</link>
		<dc:creator>George Lebron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 08 May 2010 10:03:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The reason for the extremes goes to the first rule of negotiation. Always start off with the ridiculous. If you start off near the middle and the opposing party starts off at the extreme, when the time for compromise comes the one that started in the middle doesn&#039;t feel that he/she should have to give in too much. However the one at the extreme will complain about having to give in so much while the other side only gave in a little. They will cry unfair, they will scream loudly how unfair this is and make the other side look like jerks. As the masses begin to hear of the issue many will see it as unfair that one side is being forced to give up so much more than the other and in the end the ruling will usually favor the one at the extreme. It&#039;s like selling a house (in good economic times that is), you always start with a number higher than you want so you have room to negotiate. This way both parties feel like they one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The reason for the extremes goes to the first rule of negotiation. Always start off with the ridiculous. If you start off near the middle and the opposing party starts off at the extreme, when the time for compromise comes the one that started in the middle doesn&#8217;t feel that he/she should have to give in too much. However the one at the extreme will complain about having to give in so much while the other side only gave in a little. They will cry unfair, they will scream loudly how unfair this is and make the other side look like jerks. As the masses begin to hear of the issue many will see it as unfair that one side is being forced to give up so much more than the other and in the end the ruling will usually favor the one at the extreme. It&#8217;s like selling a house (in good economic times that is), you always start with a number higher than you want so you have room to negotiate. This way both parties feel like they one.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard VInson</title>
		<link>http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/05/06/abortion-and-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-6758</link>
		<dc:creator>Richard VInson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Apr 2010 13:24:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Margie, Why isn&#039;t killing someone convicted of a crime not called &quot;murder&quot; and is called &quot;punishment&quot;? 

We can agree murder is bad. We can agree murder is ending anothers life for them. Where we seem to disagree is WHEN a life is &quot;permissable&quot; to be ended (murdered).

I respect - though I am not a Catholic, the Catholic church&#039;s position. They are consitent. Abortion is murder, therefore bad- the death penalty is also murder, thereofre also bad.
That is quite fair and not at all in conflict with one antoher.

The issue I takje is that quite often those who are against abortion, are FOR the dealth penalty. Do you see how others can view that as hypocritcal?  It makes others view that position as &quot;It is ok to kill an adult for a crime they commited, but not ok to kill someone the world has never even met.&quot; 

I am not saying abortion or the death penalty is wrong. That is something each person must carefully consider and decide for themslves, and also collectively as a nation. 

I am merely pointing out a glaring ommission in the &quot;pro-life&quot; movement. You can&#039;t call yourself &quot;pro-life&quot; if you are favor if ending one by death penalty and you can&#039;t call yourself &quot;pro-life&quot; if you care only about a fetus being born- but care not what happens to it afterwords. That isn&#039;t &quot;pro-life&quot;, that is &quot;pro-BIRTH&quot;. Life is also what happens AFTER the child is born, is it not? Are we not living ...life...as we speak? 

Food for thought..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Margie, Why isn&#8217;t killing someone convicted of a crime not called &#8220;murder&#8221; and is called &#8220;punishment&#8221;? </p>
<p>We can agree murder is bad. We can agree murder is ending anothers life for them. Where we seem to disagree is WHEN a life is &#8220;permissable&#8221; to be ended (murdered).</p>
<p>I respect &#8211; though I am not a Catholic, the Catholic church&#8217;s position. They are consitent. Abortion is murder, therefore bad- the death penalty is also murder, thereofre also bad.<br />
That is quite fair and not at all in conflict with one antoher.</p>
<p>The issue I takje is that quite often those who are against abortion, are FOR the dealth penalty. Do you see how others can view that as hypocritcal?  It makes others view that position as &#8220;It is ok to kill an adult for a crime they commited, but not ok to kill someone the world has never even met.&#8221; </p>
<p>I am not saying abortion or the death penalty is wrong. That is something each person must carefully consider and decide for themslves, and also collectively as a nation. </p>
<p>I am merely pointing out a glaring ommission in the &#8220;pro-life&#8221; movement. You can&#8217;t call yourself &#8220;pro-life&#8221; if you are favor if ending one by death penalty and you can&#8217;t call yourself &#8220;pro-life&#8221; if you care only about a fetus being born- but care not what happens to it afterwords. That isn&#8217;t &#8220;pro-life&#8221;, that is &#8220;pro-BIRTH&#8221;. Life is also what happens AFTER the child is born, is it not? Are we not living &#8230;life&#8230;as we speak? </p>
<p>Food for thought..</p>
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		<title>By: margie</title>
		<link>http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/05/06/abortion-and-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-5970</link>
		<dc:creator>margie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 May 2009 18:36:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>why isn&#039;t having an abortion called MURDER??????????when that baby starts growing this is life.    people should be ashamed of theirselves for having any part in such acts. what else would you do, that is immoral?????????there&#039;s no one to stand up for them only people who don&#039;t believe in abortion.and i am one who doesn&#039;t believe in abortion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>why isn&#8217;t having an abortion called MURDER??????????when that baby starts growing this is life.    people should be ashamed of theirselves for having any part in such acts. what else would you do, that is immoral?????????there&#8217;s no one to stand up for them only people who don&#8217;t believe in abortion.and i am one who doesn&#8217;t believe in abortion.</p>
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		<title>By: Jane</title>
		<link>http://thefiresidepost.com/2009/05/06/abortion-and-common-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-2647</link>
		<dc:creator>Jane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Sep 2008 02:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you!!  I am seventy years old and worked in an emergency room for 30 years.  I took a 16 year old girl to the morgue after she pain a taxi driver $20 to abort her with a piece of wire.  Surely no one wants to go back to those days when the police would sometimes go right into the exam rooms to question a sick frightened teenager.  Some of the people who are most vocal have no idea what it was like before Roe V Wade.   We call these girls immoral and many other names but they were from every socio economic level.   Maybe Sarah Palin&#039;s daughter will make some people realize that it happens in many families and being judgemental and  critical accomplishes nothing.  No one will ever stop abortions - but they shouldn&#039;t be done in back alleys and taxi cabs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you!!  I am seventy years old and worked in an emergency room for 30 years.  I took a 16 year old girl to the morgue after she pain a taxi driver $20 to abort her with a piece of wire.  Surely no one wants to go back to those days when the police would sometimes go right into the exam rooms to question a sick frightened teenager.  Some of the people who are most vocal have no idea what it was like before Roe V Wade.   We call these girls immoral and many other names but they were from every socio economic level.   Maybe Sarah Palin&#8217;s daughter will make some people realize that it happens in many families and being judgemental and  critical accomplishes nothing.  No one will ever stop abortions &#8211; but they shouldn&#8217;t be done in back alleys and taxi cabs.</p>
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